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Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.21 09:09:00 - [1] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/08/2008 09:10:20 Originally by: Wil Smithx So yea, amarr and caldari recons are headed for the bin along with all EW because nobody likes sitting there dying and not being able to fight back... Here's a hint: don't fly only close-range ships with no ewar support of your own. If people weren't so obsessed with getting OMG 99999999999999999999999999999999 DAMAGE!!!!!!! in EFT, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.21 19:20:00 - [2] Originally by: Wil Smithx Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 21/08/2008 09:10:20 Originally by: Wil Smithx So yea, amarr and caldari recons are headed for the bin along with all EW because nobody likes sitting there dying and not being able to fight back... Here's a hint: don't fly only close-range ships with no ewar support of your own. If people weren't so obsessed with getting OMG 99999999999999999999999999999999 DAMAGE!!!!!!! in EFT, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Where in that post did I mention close range ships fool? When you complained that you can't kill Falcons. Long range ships will easily deal with Falcons. Originally by: Wil Smithx What I also wanted to say is the EW ships need to be able to tank in some other way than relying on their EW, if they could tank as well as providing support for the gang, it wouldnt matter if their EW wasn't as powerful since they wouldn't just die in seconds as soon as anything locked them. Absolutely not. Tank is worthless in PvP, and any ship that gives up offensive power for more tank is a worthless ship that will never undock. Quote: Also the arazu is fairly null and void considering heavy interdictors can scram at 30km with no chance of escape AND tank AND deal damage! 48km scram > 30km scram. And the Arazu can bring some ewar as well as that point, while the HIC can only scramble things.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.21 19:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Cpt Branko At any rate, the whole covops cloak thingy definitely makes the Falcon a bit on the overpowered side. Did you notice whining about the Rook? No, it's annoying (and quite effective), but you can scout for it and either bring counters or avoid fighting (or try to get a favourable warp-in on it or w/e). Falcons, you can't, and they don't have any significant downsides compared to a Rook either. Nobody uses the Rook for the exact same reasons that nobody uses the Huginn or Lachesis, and nobody would use the Curse if the Pilgrim didn't suck so much. If you're going to demand a nerf for the Falcon, you'd better also be demanding nerfs to the Rapier and Arazu.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.21 22:58:00 - [4] Originally by: fairimear in comparison sensor dampeners are about half as effective on a arazu at preventing a target from locking. Yes, and guess what: the Arazu can also scramble the target while damping it. In solo/small gang fights (where Gallente are meant to be used) this is actually better than a Falcon, since you cover both the tackle and ewar roles with one ship. Quote: 2 bs with a falcon can kill 5 bs without 1. Well, congratulations on stating the obvious: a balanced fleet that includes ewar support is better than pure battleships. How is this a problem? Quote: And altho it makes no difference to the outcome falcons also lead to situations where 1 person is getting ganked by say 7 and they cant even try to kill the cruiser before going down becuase they just cant lock on.. Cry more please. If you're getting ganked 7v1 you're dead, Falcon or no Falcon. There's no need to cripple the Falcon just so you can satisfy your ego by getting something to 95% shields before you die. Originally by: Dristra You will also fail to suggest any possble changes that will make everyone happy, you just persist that ecm is NOT broken, and that everyone should just adapt. Why SHOULD everyone be happy? Why should we (or CCP) give in to the whiners who troll these threads with wildly exaggerated claims of what a Falcon can actually do?

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